Keeping an eye on the hottest in film and television.

Unraveling the Mysteries of "Lost": Was it Worth It?

Lost - Was it Worth It - Header

Yes, it was worth it.

It was worth it in the sense that, if you've been watching and enjoying the show for the past six years, you were part of an experience that engaged the audience in a way that no other TV show has done before. The sixth season may have been the one to show viewers the light (literally), but that doesn't negate the thrill and intrigue that came with watching the story unfold in seasons prior.

But asking "Was it worth it?" is different than asking "Is it a good show?"

I fear the answer to that question isn't nearly as encouraging.

Some may not believe this to be the case. Some may believe the series finale was a brave, bold move by the creators, and that it was a graceful end to a terrific show. Some may argue that even if the sixth season was weak, the journey getting there was still satisfying, and one misstep cannot in any way diminish the quality of the previous seasons.

Alas, denial is only the first stage in the grief cycle. You will need to experience all five before coming to terms with the realization that Lost is, and always will be, a stupid show.


Lost - Denial

Denial.

Lost is not like other TV shows. This is an important distinction to make, since the way a mystery operates and the way other serialized drama operates is very different.

When it comes to TV and film, audiences are always quick to question anything that breaks suspension of disbelief. In order to avoid this problem in TV shows, the writers use the first few episodes to present a consistent internal logic that will act as the foundation for any fantastical events that follow. If the show or movie is unable to come up with a sound explanation to justify the introduction of newly introduced fantastical elements, audiences tend to lose interest (see: Heroes).

Lost, though, is unique in that it managed to retain its popularity without ever establishing a consistent internal logic. The show was so convincing in the gradual way it unveiled aspects of its presumably fully realized mythology, viewers immediately accepted that there was a consistent internal logic, and that it simply hadn't been revealed to us yet. We accepted this because the appeal of the show was built largely around the mystery, and the very nature of mystery requires deliberately not giving audiences details necessary to fully understand the story. So we put our trust in the show, patiently waiting for all these mysterious happenings to be put in a context that actually made sense.

Fast forward six years, and the reality becomes clear: There was no logic to this show, consistent or otherwise. The writers had no limits to where they were willing to take the story, and their lack of foresight resulted in a show consisting largely of crazy plot twists that served no purpose other than to trick the viewers into thinking that those plot twists would eventually serve a purpose. And then when it came time to pay off on that six years of investment, the writers decided to flip things around at the last minute and say, "See? It was actually about this the whole time! Pay attention to this now! That other stuff didn't matter!"

Actually, it does matter, and the only reason people are buying into the idea that it didn't matter is because we tend to forget things when they're dispersed over the course of six years and 80-plus hours. But try going back and watching the show again, and then tell me that the mysteries didn't matter. Because they sure as hell mattered then.

To say that the sixth season of the show retroactively ruined everything that came before it may seem harsh, but the writers were taking that risk by building an entire show around mystery. As with any story, it's important to judge Lost in the context that it's been given.

And what is that context, exactly?

Here it is - the mystery behind Lost revealed:

The island is home to a glowy cave with a cork in the ground that holds in bad stuff. By drinking magic wine or water (or any sort of magic fluid, really), you become protector of the glowy cave, and gain the mystical ability to make up your own set of unbreakable rules and travel into people's lives through mirrors and never age and so on. One such protector, named Jacob, pushes his brother in the glowy cave, and the guy tranforms into a mechanical-sounding smoke entity that can take the form of dead people and is capable of seeing into your soul. The smoke thing wants to kill his brother, but he can't, because one of Jacob's rules is that they can't kill each other. The smoke thing declares that he will find a loophole, while Jacob inexplicably brings people to the island in an effort to prove him wrong about humans always corrupting and destroying. Many years later, Jacob starts taking the loophole dealio seriously, and instead of maybe coming up with some more foolproof rules to prevent him dying at the hands of Smokey, he decides to round up hundreds of candidates, chosen so that, in the event of his death, one of them would take over as protector of the island and make sure that the cork in the ground is safe. He enacts this elaborate plan by finding people off the island who are flawed in some way, and using his island-protector abilities to meet with them at an exact point in their lives where he could influence them with his touch so that they would be on a plane many years later that would crash on the island when a guy named Desmond didn't press a button in a hatch.

How anybody can continue to defend Lost's storyline after the sixth season is beyond me. Perhaps people's perception of the show will change in a year or two, once they've had a chance to experience it straight through. In much the same way it took time for people to collectively accept the awfulness of the Star Wars prequels, I expect that it will take time for audiences to realize just how inane the final season of Lost really is, and how actively it detracts from the show as a whole.


Lost - Anger

Anger.

My primary frustration with Lost isn't that it introduced numerous mysteries and subplots and then abandoned them (which it did), or that the explanations behind many of those mysteries were silly and underwhelming (which they were). What bothers me more than anything is that all those mysteries and subplots never mattered to begin with. Almost nothing the show focused on in its six season run was relevant to the story that the series ultimately tried to tell. The three biggest factors in each of its seasons--the Others, The Dharma Initiative, and the threat of Charles Widmore--didn't amount to anything in the story beyond just being inconsequential "stuff" that happened in relation to the island.

In other words, Seasons 2, 3, 4, and 5 were filler seasons. They existed solely so that the characters had something to do until reaching the end of the show. And all of those mysteries and twists inbetween? Meaningless. The extent of their value to show was (a.) they were cool, and (b.) they maintained intrigue.

College Humor has already done a pretty thorough takedown of the mysteries that the show introduced without bothering to explain, but that's only the half of it.

I don't expect writers of a TV show to plan every single detail ahead of time, but there is no excuse for presenting a mystery without working out a few basic details, such as: the explanation behind it, its relevance to the story, and a way in which it can be satisfyingly resolved.

Creators/writers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse did none of these things. They had no idea what the answers to these questions were, and made no effort to supply them with meaning in the story. As a result, we ended up getting scenes like this (paraphrased only slightly):

*whisper sounds*

HURLEY: "Wait, it's cool, I think I know what this is."

*runs out into jungle*

HURLEY: "Dead people, right?"

GHOST MICHAEL: "Yup."

HURLEY: "'Kay."

I can just imagine the writers after forcefully inserting this scene in the script, dusting off their hands with a satisfied smirk across their faces. "Well, took care of that one! Another mystery solved!"

Here's another one, explaining the nature of the donkey wheel that allows the island to skip through time:

MOTHER: What is that?

MAN IN BLACK: It’s a wheel... We're going to make an opening, one much bigger than this one. And then, I’m going to attach that wheel to a system we’re building -- a system that channels the water and the light. And then I’m gonna turn it. And when I do... I'll finally be able to leave this place.

MOTHER: How do you know all this? How do you know it will work?

MAN IN BLACK: I'm special... Mother.

Maybe others feel differently, but I didn't merely want answers to these questions -- I didn't want a bunch of half-assed explanations to poorly thought out mysteries. I wanted an actual story. I wanted these mysteries to have some significance or relevance to anything in the narrative. I wanted the show to fulfill the basic tenets of good storytelling.

But Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse are not good storytellers.

They are, however, excellent bullshitters.

These guys used mystery as a way to hide that nothing in the story made any fucking sense, and so that they wouldn't have to waste time coming up with identifiable explanations or justifications behind many of the plot developments. And even now, when that fact is so blatantly evident, people are still coming up with excuses to defend their sloppy plotting. Why, guys? Why are you defending them? I'm not trying to suggest that you shouldn't like the show, but are you not even a little annoyed that the framework of this show turned out to be as shoddy as it is?

Let's review:


Q: Why can't Jacob or the Man in Black kill each other?
A: Because it goes against the rules that Jacob made. He gets to make these rules because he's protector of the island. How exactly these rules work isn't known. The only hint we get regarding the nature of the rules is a scene where Jacob/MiB's mother stops in her tracks, looks at them, and says, "I've made it so that you can never hurt each other."

Why it's stupid: The entire foundation of the show hinges on the audience's ability to buy into these mystical rules that don't have any sort of logical backing. Without the rules, the conflict of the show wouldn't exist. That's the only reason the writers included them. Aside from that, they're not important, and the writers spend about ten seconds total dealing with their inclusion. In any other show, viewers would flip off their TV screen if writers tried to justify a plotline with unexplained "magic rules". In Lost, it's considered par for the course.


Q: If the losties created the alternate reality in the afterlife as a way to remember and to let go, why does Desmond's consciousness jump there? Why was that necessary to make them remember? What would have happened had his consciousness not triggered in the afterlife?
A: Who knows. I assume that all of the losties would have eventually remembered anyway, seeing as how that's the only reason the alternate reality existed in the first place.

Why it's stupid: By making the alternate reality the afterlife, Desmond's significance in the story is nullified. He's been built up since the second season as a man displaced from time and space, but that subplot hadn't yet served a purpose in the overall narrative. With the series finale, Desmond's journey is rendered irrelevant. The only point to his consciousness-altering state was so that the writers would have something cool for his character to do.


Q: What point were the writers trying to make with the show's central themes (fate vs. free will, science vs. faith)?
A: They weren't.

Why it's stupid: Generally, themes are supposed to have some sort of purpose. Otherwise, what's the use in having them? This is the question I find myself asking over and over when thinking about Lost's themes, and the answer I keep coming back to is: there is no point. The writers assumed simply having them was enough. They never bothered to figure out what they were trying to say, or if they even had anything to say.


Q: Why does the smoke monster get stuck looking like John Locke?
A: Because Jacob died. Apparently, if the protector of the island dies, any smoke monsters on the island are no longer able to change form. (Unless of course it's to revert back to their smoke state, in which case it's totally fine.)

Why it's stupid: The writers needed an excuse for why the Man in Black would stay looking like Locke, so they came up with a throwaway line to facilitate it.


Q: Why does Ben not recognize any of the losties from when he was a kid?
A: Because he gets amnesia after Richard heals him.

Why it's stupid: When in doubt, give your characters amnesia. (24 taught me that!)


Q: If Christian was actually the smoke monster, how was he able to appear off the island? Why did he get Vincent to wake up Jack in the bamboo forest? Why did he lead Jack to water? Why did he say he could speak on Jacob's behalf?
A: Maybe Jack was hallucinating! Maybe the Man in Black was bored! Maybe he was lying! Maybe it all part of his plan to get Jack to trust him, and he just never got a chance to take advtange of all his hard work!

Why it's stupid: Maybe--just maybe--the writers were making it all up as they went along.


Q: Why does falling into "The Source" turn you into a smoke monster that sounds like a machine and judges the lives that people have lead?
A: It just does, ok?


Q: Why did the writers keep Sun & Jin separated for multiple seasons, only to kill them off almost immediately after they were reunited?
A: Because they're dicks, and they had nothing else for them to do.


Q: Why can't Ben kill Widmore? What are "the rules" he refers to?
A: Oh wait, he can kill Widmore, and he does. "The rules" only mattered before, when the writers needed them to.


Q: What's up with Walt?
A: He's special. End of story.


Q: If the reason the Others dressed in rags was to fool the losties (for some reason), then why did they bring kids along with them?
A: Because the writers had no idea who the Others were until later, and hoped that nobody would notice.


Q: Wasn't it awesome when the Black Rock rode on that giant tidal wave and crashed through the four-toed statue and ended up in the middle of the island?
A: ...


Q: OK, you've made your point. Can you stop now?
A: No, fuck you.


Now here's a brief sampling of things in Lost that seemed like they were significant in some way, only to subsequently be revealed as having no substantial bearing on the narrative:

The entirety of Season 5. They left the island, came back to the island, skipped through time, lived with the Dharma Initiative, and for what? So you'd be mislead when the writers introduced the alternate timeline in Season 6.

The entirety of Season 4. An excuse to throw some new characters into the mix, none of whom mattered.

Widmore. Built up since Season 2 as being this mysterious villain, only to show up randomly in the final season and then get killed off without actually doing anything. Apparently Jacob talked to him at some point and he changed his mind and came to help protect the island. M'kay.

Eloise Hawking. Built up since Season 3 as this mysterious figure who knows a lot about the island, has a complex understanding of the fates of the characters (particularly Desmond), and is portrayed in a manner that would suggest she has some grand importance in the story. Nope, nope, and nope.

Illana, Caesar, Dogen, and Abbadon. Four mysterious new characters who were built up and then killed off when the writers didn't know what to do with them.

The Temple. Built up for several episodes during the beginning of the sixth season. Nothing comes of it.

The Numbers. They were cursed. Dharma used them. Jacob identified the candidates with them. Why? Don't ask, they're not important.

The Sickness. I still have no idea. Rousseau may or may not have been infected with it. Claire may or may not have been infected with it. Sayid may or may not have been infected with it, but then Desmond gave a speech about love, and then he may or may not have been infected with it anymore.

The bird that said Hurley's name. Guys, seriously. A bird. Said Hurley's name. Twice.

But don't let any of this convince you that the writers had no idea what they were doing with the story. After all, the Adam & Eve resolution sure panned out, huh?

There were certain things we knew from the very beginning. Independent of ever knowing when the end was going to be, we knew what it was going to be, and we wanted to start setting it up as early as season 1, or else people would think that we were making it up as we were going along. So the skeletons are the living — or, I guess, slowly decomposing — proof of that. When all is said and done, people are going to point to the skeletons and say, "That is proof that from the very beginning, they always knew that they were going to do this."

SOURCE: Entertainment Weekly

Three years later, here's their response in an interview with Alan Sepinwall from Hitfix.

You've said many times that when people find out who Adam and Eve are, we'll all realize just how long you've been planning the mythology. Well, I went back and watched the "House of the Rising Sun" scene, and Jack says that the clothing looks like it's 50 years old. Is he just not very good at calculating the rate of decay on fabric?

CUSE: Jack is not really an expert in carbon dating.

LINDELOF: He's not really a forensic anthropologist. We need to bring in Bones.

CUSE: Or Charlotte. She's an anthropolgist.

LINDELOF: The other theory that I would like to throw out there is that Jacob and his mother were just expert craftsmen. They made those clothes on that loom so well, it would appear that they were only 50 years old in decomposition, when in fact it's several thousand.

CUSE: Or perhaps the fabric is magic. A lot of theories there, Alan.

Like I said: Poor storytellers, excellent bullshitters.


Lost - Bargaining

Bargaining.

No more than a few weeks before the series finale, I recall hearing the exact same argument from Lost fans that I've been hearing since the end of Season 1.

"The mysteries will be revealed when they're revealed! They know exactly what they're doing, you just have to be patient!"

Cut to after the series finale has aired, and Lost fans began singing a different tune.

"Way to completely miss the point! It's not about the mysteries, it's about the characters!"

How quickly things change.

It's easy for the creators to say now, with the series finale, that the mystery has always been ancillary to the characters, but that sentiment is not remotely supported by the 80-plus hours that came before it. The only time Lost's exploration of character was equal to its emphasis on mystery was in the first season, when we had no idea who these people were, what they were capable of, and what it was that made them tick. Even then though, the appeal of the characters was based around an element of mystery. Once that mystery had been revealed, the characters rapidly devolved into caricatures of themselves, and spent the next five seasons annoyingly repeating the same actions with little to no growth (e.g. Jack always needs something to fix, Kate always runs, Sawyer always cons, etc.).

Establishing "mysteries", it seems, was Lost's only trick. The show was great at introducing things, but horrible at actually doing anything with them. This is also why the writers kept introducing new characters in every season, and why those characters were killed off when the writers ran out of stuff for them to do.

  Characters introduced in... Characters who died in...
Season 2 Desmond, Ben, Ana Lucia,
Eko, Libby, Bernard,
Widmore, Alex
Shannon, Ana Lucia, Libby
Season 3 Juliet, Nikki, Paulo, Richard Charlie, Eko, Nikki, Paulo
Season 4 Miles, Faraday, Lapidus,
Charlotte
Michael, Rousseau, Alex
Season 5 Jacob, the Man in Black,
Ilana
Locke, Charlotte, Faraday,
Jacob
Season 6
(pre-finale)
  Juliet, Ilana, Widmore,
Sayid, Jin, Sun

This is not the format of a show that values character over intrigue. This is the format of a soap opera.

With each progressive season, Lost accommodated these new characters by shifting the focus ever so slightly away from our main cast, and as a result, it lost sight of their place in the story. By Season 6, the characters had nothing to do except repeatedly switch sides between groups of people who were equally as in the dark as they were. You can say the show is about "character" all you want, but if that were really the case, the writers wouldn't have gone so far our of their way to keep everything in the final season so shrouded in ambiguity, thus making it impossible to apply any value to the character's actions.

This is what our main losties did this season:

Sawyer made alliances, broke alliances, lied about breaking alliances, lied about making alliances, and broke alliances that he lied about making.

Kate followed around hunky male characters like a puppy, as usual.

Sayid became a zombie, and then decided he didn't want to be a zombie anymore, and then exploded.

Sun couldn't speak English for a bit. Then she could.

Jin looked for Sun. Then they both died.

Hurley acted like Hurley.

Claire wanted to kill Kate, but then she didn't anymore.

Desmond thought he knew what was going on, but didn't.

Ben lied, killed, acted sad about killing, and then decided to go kill some more.

And then there's Jack.

Jack actually did experience a little growth over the last few seasons, in one very simple way: he went from a man of science to a man of faith. This development culminated in the series finale, when he sat in a glowy cave while Desmond pulled a rock out of the ground. Then bad stuff happened. So Jack went down there, and put the rock back in the ground. Then he died.

The appeal of the series finale was not that it reminded us that the characters were more important than the answers to the mystery. Its appeal was that it seized an opportunity for cheap manipulation and executed it incredibly well. It's no surprise that people cried during the finale. That's what's bound to happen when characters who were killed off several seasons ago become reunited once again, in slow-motion, with emotional music underscoring the drama. But that sentimentality is only a temporary distraction from the on-island silliness that made up the majority of the show.

In a way, the series finale was the writer's final act of bullshitting the audience. They knew nothing they could come up with would satisfy those wanting answers, since they had no idea what those answers were when they introduced the questions. Instead of facing the wrath of the fans, they played it smart: make the audience cry. Give them some sappy send-off of all their favorite characters smiling in a church while white light engulfs them, and end the show with Jack quietly dying as an adorable dog lays faithfully beside him.

Sorry folks, that doesn't undo everything that came before it. That doesn't suddenly make the show a "character study". It makes it cheap, and for a variety of other reasons, pretty damn stupid.


Lost - Depression

Depression.

Lost's legacy has been ruined. What I once considered to be one of the greatest television shows in history, I now hesitate to recommend to anybody. Knowing what I know now, I might argue that Lost still succeeds as exceedingly fun trashy entertainment, but that would be an insult to shows like True Blood (another series that's good at introducing elements without actually doing anything with them, but one doesn't suffer from the pretension of being sophisticated and thoughtful).

To contrast the mishandling of Lost's resolution and the dismaying way in which it sucks out all the greatness of the show's earlier seasons, take a look at Veronica Mars. This was another series built around mystery, but each of its seasons was largely self-contained. Instead of waiting until the end of the show's run to provide the audience with the context necessary to make sense of the story, it did so at the end of each season. As such, it didn't matter that the third season was lousy; I can still happily rewatch the first and second seasons, and pretend the third doesn't exist. Sadly, that's something I'm unable to do with Lost. The brilliance of the first season doesn't stand on its own. It, along with seasons two through five, will always have to contend with the idiocy of the sixth season.

In many ways, the experience of watching Lost is similar to being in a long-term relationship.

First year: The best. Sweet, passionate baby-making love.
Second year: Things start to get a little rocky, but the love endures.
Third year: Some frustration. Take a break. Come back stronger and more in love than ever.
Fourth year: Spices things up a bit, but you wonder if there's a future.
Fifth year: Not sure what's happening anymore.
Sixth year: Everything falls apart.

"Across the Sea", the Jacob/Man in Black flashback episode, is the break-up.

For some, I suspect the series finale was the make-up sex.

For me, the series finale was like being forced to watch my six-year lover blow another guy.

But, as time passes, so too does the emotional attachment. Looking back on the relationship now, it becomes clear what a disaster it was. There were some great times, but those have been overshadowed by the realization that she was a manipulative cunt, and I was the sucker that fell for her bullshit.


Lost - Acceptance

Acceptance.

A mystery is only as good as its reveal. And Lost's reveal sucked.

And yet, I don't at all regret the time I spent with the series. It may have taken me six years to acknowledge what type of show I was really watching--a soap opera about daddy issues, with an almost entirely superficial level of depth and narrative coherence--but the enjoyment I experienced in those six years can never be taken away.

My only regret: double-dipping on the fucking Blu-rays.

148 Comments

Wow. What a long winded way

Wow. What a long winded way to say that you're a frustrated screenwriter. What a sad and pathetic way to show your age. Comparing it to a long term relationship coming from someone who has clearly never had a long term relationship is like taking marital advice from someone who has been divorced three times. Kinda sad, really. Good luck with your writing, whoever you are.
Adam Quigley's picture

The metaphor was a joke,

The metaphor was a joke, fyi. That's ok though. Jokes can be confusing.

Also, your assumption about me trying to be a screenwriter is wrong. That's ok though. I'm sure you tried your best.

Thanks for wishing me luck on my writing! :)

Big smile. I dig it. I'm

Big smile. I dig it. I'm extremely slow. Some might say borderline retarded. I am of the opinion that everyone is a frustrated screenwriter, however.
lincolnbartlett's picture

because

no one purchased your screen play.

Nice write up, totally agree

Nice write up, totally agree with you.

Tough but Fair

I'd be lying if I said this wasn't a bit tough to get through as a fan of the finale and the series in general. However, I'm a big fan of the /Filmcast and tend to agree with your thoughts and views the most on the podcast. While it kind of sucks to see a show I love get bashed by someone who's opinion I hold strong, I still completely respect this article. It's clear you had strong, well thought-out problems with the show and are not like a good majority of the people who disliked the finale, summing up their opinion with a basic extension of "WTF? That sucked!" While I don't necessarily agree with all your points (though admittedly, my unabashed love for the show makes me biased), I'm not going to be one of those assholes who just claims that you "didn't get the point" when you clearly did. I also really appreciate that your problems with the series didn't lead you to simply say that you regret ever watching it or that anybody who likes the show and it's ending is an idiot. You had your opinion and backed-up it well which I respect and it's why I appreciate your thoughts and reviews on The /Filmcast and in your columns. Looking forward to more.

Yumm, been waiting on this

Yumm, been waiting on this juicy meat slab of a write-up and it looks tasty! About to grab a soda and savor every morsel! Fuck the high blood pressure amirite!

Glad I missed it

Thanks for confirming what I already suspected. This essay, however, goes further and suggests that my fears are well founded: we are a nation of imbeciles with no interest in logic, rhyme or reason. We cling to inconsequential things on misguided faith and become nasty in defending them like its some kind of freak religion. Little access to or interest in making sense of the world, a story, a belief. In the nation of Witnesses, magic underwear, Tea Partiers, Mac heads, and Cub fans, we don't bother with making sense. Just give me bells and whistles and I will embarrassingly come up with absurd rationalizations and then tell you you are stupid for not being able to see that my broken stale pretzel from beneath the couch cushion is actually a sumptuous gourmet meal that I will cherish forever. The first comment already is a personal attack. And you even said you liked the experience. There is no room for honesty or reality in the shallow minds of mythseekers. It is curious that Star Wars geeks were quick to point out how bad the prequels were. A more intelligent and critical thinking crowd perhaps. The writers are laughing all the way to the bank here I suppose. Good for them.

Yes, but they exploited that mindless sector of our society

These people who are "lost" in their fantasies and dreams, got exploited by the producers of Lost. That deserves some credit. The show does not.

and furthermore...

Sorry, I forgot to add, you are hilarious. Despite being a long rip on a show I have no interest in, I had some good laughs and read all the way to the end. That's cool. Good luck with the hate mail!

Fuck off.

Fuck off.

I've come to the conclusion

I've come to the conclusion that the two camps of Lost (those who disliked the finale and those who liked the finale) are just like religious nutters and empiricists. The empiricist constantly asks questions, looking for trends in nature that unify all of the little details they've been analyzing over and over. The religious nutter doesn't question and just accepts the world as it is without any curiosity. Authority figures are always right and what they say is always the truth. Once you can see that dichotomy, then you understand why people either liked the finale or didn't like it.

You've made me wanna go pick

You've made me wanna go pick a show and shit all over it.

This will piss off some

This will piss off some hardcore Lost fans. However, that person isn't me. I am a hardcore Lost fan and you are completely correct. The creators served us a big crock of BS.

I'm with this guy

I'm with this guy

Awesome.

Fantastic article, and there isn't a single point I disagree with you on. I'm not sure how anyone could. I feel soiled. Also, good call on the Across the Sea episode, which was the only episode of Lost I had to skip through scenes (I know, bad ettiquette, but it was UNWATCHABLE at times). So amateurish in writing, and some of the worst acting, condensed into the shortest space of time, we have seen throughout the shows run. The only episode of Season 6 that resonates and elevates above the sewage sodden mess, is that where Richard is the focus. It isn't perfect, but that guys acting is rad. P.s. fuck the hater

Across the Sea

I agree about the Across the Sea episode, it was cringe worthy and dreadful to watch. Up until that episode I still had hope but when the mother simply said "because I made it so", or something to that extent, I finally understood how empty this show was and that we wouldn't get any answers with simply three more episodes to go. This show could've been great with better writers and with only two or three seasons... but I guess they wanted to squeeze all the money they could out of it in the end. The 2,5 hour finale wasn't for example really 2,5 hours since it was including something like 45 minutes of commercials... kinda laughable. No wonder they didn't have time to even try to tie the loose strings together. I feel intellectually and emotionally raped.

I COULD try...

... but on the whole it would be useless. I disagree with pretty much every word you said, and I could get frutstrated, or mad. But I won't. You too are in a phase of denial: the one I call "mourning". Right now you are depressed with the show, and there is no way you have reached "Acceptance." I guess what I'm saying is, I don't get the point of talking about Lost anymore, because it is such a mixed topic that we will never agree on. Personally, I loved the show. I can see you didn't. That's fine. Unlike most things, I am not getting super pissed if someone doesn't agree with me. Because this is such an opinionated show, and it all depends on how you view it. Let me make it simple: You can be a Man of Character or a Man of Myth. Just like Man of Science and Man of Faith, you can describe the LOST finale (and show in general) as either myth or character, and both work. So, well I am disheartened that you didn't like the show after the finale, and I hope one day you'll make a Jack-esque turn to a Man of Character, it probably won't happen. So, well I respect your opinions as well thought out and developed, I disagree completly on them. Sorry for the super long comment, but I to am doing a Lost related post on my blog and this comment was just the thing I needed to get my creative juices flowing. Anyways, I read your super long post, you can at least do me the decency of reading my comment :).

I was going to make a

I was going to make a similar comment, but the fact that the link to this article is "Lost Sucks" pissed me off too much. Not "Why I Don't Like Lost," but "Why Lost Sucks." If he doesn't respect other people's opinions, why should I?
Adam Quigley's picture

You're right. Because "Why I

You're right. Because "Why I Don't Like Lost" hooks the reader way better than "Why Lost Sucks".

Of course it's my opinion. There's no need to specify that.

Oh booooo hwooooo hwoooo, he

Oh booooo hwooooo hwoooo, he wasn't sensitive enough to us fans who "loved" the show, that's why we should give him back the disrespect and rebuke his reasonable article pointing out actual flaws in the show with an inane, nothing saying ad hominem. HA, what you say now??? Throw against a tree this!!!1 ...

Good Article

"Personally, I loved the show. I can see you didn't" I believe that you have this totally wrong, I would suggest that just like myself, the OP at one time loved this show. The fact that he writes with such passion about Lost, suggest strong feelings. The opposite of Love is not Hate, but rather Apathy. I gather that the OP is most upset about how a once great show was derailed by ridiculous sub plots and characters that ultimately were meaningless. Personally I think if ABC and the show producers had truly chosen the path less traveled, and done something truly daring for American television, ie. before the Pilot was even aired, planned and written Lost for 3 seasons, the result would have been not only an artistic masterpiece, but a ratings Juggernaut. 60-70 high quality episodes concentrating on the 1st season cast members and the island, with each episode well written, tightly focused, and flowing into the next. Instead they produced a show that had many highs but many more lows, a show that had both steadily declining quality and ratings. Lost was typical of most American TV shows, in that a basic premise was stretched too long and mucho filler required to fill in air time. As a whole, people are more intelligent than American TV networks give them credit for, and the Lost season 1-5 ratings reflect this fact. Staring middle of season 2, when the drivel filler factor became more apparent, more and more people stopped watching.

This is just a fiction story

This is just a fiction story done by a bunch of guys no one needed to follow, so in the end, it doesn't matter. However, you're just being stupid. What's the deal with this ludicrous "man of character" / "man of myth" dichotomy? Sure both aspects matter in the show, in the end though, we're talking about SLOPPY WRITING, in BOTH aspects. Focus on characters in no way makes up for sloppy writing... in fact, it puts more weight on the writing to be good, at least in that aspect... and it wasn't. The purgatory scenario was contrived and superimposed on everything that came before both in terms of character development as well as plot and mysteries. If you can't see that, you're just a fanboi defending his favorite bone... stop pretending otherwise.

Your problem.

The problem with your review is you over simplify things. I just over simplified your review by saying that, but it's true.

Pretty good write up. I wish

Pretty good write up. I wish I had the patience to write something like that. Or even pay attention long enough to actually construct a sentence about ... something...

Anonymous

I'm hesitant to take your opinion seriously. I understand that you have no interest in watching the show, but to pass judgement on something that you have not experienced/viewed yourself is a little shallow. This article no doubt heightened your opinion that Lost was a worthless viewing experience, but it's hard to take in any of your comments too seriously. Your points on the 'nation' are interesting, but come on man. It's a pet peeve of mine when people comment on films/TV they haven't seen, so apologies if this comes across as a little harsh. I like to think I'm not an idiot, and I love the show. Would it have benefited from trimming? Absolutely. I'm sure it would have been more of a solid viewing experience if it had only lasted two or three seasons, and that mythology had been planned out from the start. I absolutely understand where Adam is coming from, but personally, I don't give a shit about the answers. I enjoyed the experience, was moved by the show many times and have made friends in the process through hours of discussion. Is that a cop out answer? Probably. My personal feelings have blurred my ability to criticize the show from an unbiased stand point, but I don't care. I've loved every step of the journey. At the end of the day, as with all art, it comes down to a personal opinion. Mine was positive, Adam's wasn't.

From where did you get that

From where did you get that he didn't watch the show? It's quite clear that he watched the show or else he couldn't have generated a list of things which where left unanswered.

What was Lost, really?

I get your frustration, Adam, I really do. I have to agree more than I would like with your criticisms regarding the structure and themes of the show. Few would argue that from a pure storytelling format, 'Lost' represents not so much a structure as it does a hodgepodge of various themes, ideas, and interpretations. Some of these were examined at length; others were dropped an episode or two after they were first presented. Fate, destiny, time travel, science vs. faith, free will, on and on and on... Let's be honest-it's a mess. I've had many a problem with Lost's storytelling over the years, some of which you've mentioned quite eloquently above. In fact, I can honestly say that as much as I was thrilled by the show over the years, as often if not more often I was left feeling frustrated and bewildered by the erratic narrative. I have no shame in admitting that Lost caused me to utter more than a fair share of profanities these last 6 years. The show proved to be fairly abusive in it's amount of respect towards us, the viewer. And yet, being completely honest here... at the end of the day, when I look back on these 6 years, I can truthfully say: I really, genuinely don't care. Yes, it was frustrating. Yes, it was sometimes grueling to watch. It was sometimes painful. It was all too often a show that promised much and gave back little. And yet, be it good or bad, I wouldn't trade these 6 years for anything. I love 'Lost.' I love it for every stupid, ridiculous, asinine plot twists that it dished up week after week after week. I love it for the muddled theology, the unanswered questions, the furious, yet ultimately pointless debates it prompted out of me and my buddies week in an week out. I love it for the characters-yes, even Ana Lucia-who, as lacking as they were in actual development, more than made up for (in my opinion) in sheer, honest-to-God likeability. I love these people, and dammit, I'd gonna miss them. I love the settings. I love the ideas, transparent as they were. I love the cliffhangers that marked every single commercial break in the show's entire 121 episode run. I love the music. I love the action. I love the romance, the comedy, the drama...heck, I even love the film noir stuff (I'm looking at you, Nikki and Paulo). I love this show, and as infuriating as it could prove to be, I looked forward to it every single week. That, right there, is it's genius, I think. We can all pile on Lindelof and Cruse for promising something for 6 years that we ultimately didn't get-heck, we didn't even get close to getting anything resembling what we were promised. It would have been great if somehow, someway, those guys could have delivered a finale, or even a final season, that resolved, tied up, and concluded this mess that we've spent 6 years following. It would have proved them as more than just great entertainers, but real, God-gifted storytellers. It would have made for television that was more than just gripping, more than just thought-provoking, but genuinely enlightening. But we didn't. They didn't tie everything up. Strands were left hanging. Ideas, left un-thought. Themes, left un-realized. Stories, left un-told. Characters, left undeveloped. In terms of a true and honest narrative, 'Lost' is a failure, and I fail to see how anybody could argue that. But as television... I think that's a different story. I know we can agree where Lost's flaws lie...but despite those flaws, there was something about that caused us to come back to it week in and week out. Even as it treated the viewer as nothing more than a rag-doll, willing to be dragged around without any real inkling of where it was headed or what it all meant, it still did, ultimately, entertain. It was fun. Exciting. Interesting. Even moving. Episode after episode, week after week, even as I had no idea what the story was trying to do or where it was trying to go...I had fun. For me, 'Lost' represented nothing more than what it really, ultimately turned out to be: a ride. You get on it, it throws you for a few loops of exhilaration and fun, and then it's over. You may not have gotten a whole lot out of it...but man, it was fun while it lasted. I get the feelings of betrayal that a lot of people are experiencing, I really do. Many a person these last few years really did believe that they were in the midst of something special, something deep and profound. They may not have known quite what it was, or understood what it all meant...but they would, eventually. The mythology would go somewhere, it had to. Of course, as we know now, it didn't. Cruse and Lindelof (and, I should mention, a whole slew of other writers, directors, and various other team-members) led many to think that it was going somewhere deep and important. That was their hook for many a viewer-the promise of understanding, of answers to questions far beyond our understanding. That, I would argue, is one of the key things that made 'Lost' the phenomenon that it became. Maybe it was wrong for them to promise so much, only to pay off with so little. In fact, it was probably was. And for those who saw 'Lost' as that very thing, I'm very sorry. It really, truly is representative of an abusive relationship, from exciting possibilities at the relationship's beginning all the way to it's tragic, inebvitable break-up. Yet it's that very inevitability that I think, ultimately, helped me to view 'Lost' in a somewhat more realistic and, ultimately, more satisfying manner. If one had taken a step back from the show in the midst of all it's hokum and hodge-podgery, it wasn't difficult to see where this was all headed. There simply was no way for them to end the life of this beast they had created in manner worthy of it's masterful inception-it simply wasn't going to happen. As the show drew closer to it's end date, building layer after layer on top of itself, it was inevitable that at some point, eventually, it was all going to tumble down. I don't say all this to sound prophetic or more knowledgeable than anyone else-I'm just trying to put a little perspective on a show that, in all honesty, probably needed it. Seeing the show for what it really is, rather than what it pretended to be or was promised to be, helped to make the end destination a little more acceptable, a tad more satisfying. I don't begrudge anyone who didn't see it headed in this direction-after all, as phony as they ended up being, Carlton and Cruse did prove to appear to be awfully in control of things as they went along-but I do think there is a certain level of skepticism necessary when becoming invested in a show as layered and dependent on mysteries as 'Lost'. The Kool-Aid may look tasty...but woe to anyone who jumps in fully. That's not to say that we should just excuse the writers for their creation-after all, as difficult as it may have proved to be, they could have delivered on their promises. They could have made a narrative completely and utterly bullet-proof and plot-hole free. They could have. But they didn't. Which leads us the viewer to consider: what now? Do we reject the show completely and utterly as the tease that it was...or do we cut them just an iota of slack, and choose to remember the show for all the good times that it provided us? I'm not saying that we remember the show as an example of perfect, amazing television...but I am saying that it's possible to accept the show's flaws, hold the show accountable to those flaws, and still remember it as the great TV it was. Because really, at the end of the day, despite what our various qualms regarding the story, characters, and themes may be, despite the frustration, heartbreak, and betrayals, despite the stupidity of the ultimate answers we were provided with, despite all that... Lost was great TV. It was fun. It was exciting. It was gripping. It was moving. And flawed as it may be, I would recommend it in a heartbeat to anyone. 'Lost' wasn't perfect, we can definitely agree on that...but it was pretty fun while it lasted. And that, ultimately, is what I'm going to remember about it the most. Not the muddled mythology. Not the half-baked ideas or themes. Not the lame story. Not the undeveloped characters. No, I'm going to remember the fun stuff...because ultimately, that's what 'Lost' did best: it entertained. And on a Tuesday night, that's all I'm asking for.

Good morning. In less than

Good morning. In less than an hour, aircrafts from here will join others from around the world. And you will be launching the largest aerial battle in the history of mankind. "Mankind." That word should have new meaning for all of us today. We can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore. We will be united in our common interests. Perhaps it's fate that today is the Fourth of July, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom... Not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution... but from annihilation. We are fighting for our right to live. To exist. And should we win the day, the Fourth of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day the world declared in one voice: WE WILL NOT GO QUIETLY INTO THE NIGHT! WE WILL NOT VANISH WITHOUT A FIGHT! WE'RE GOING TO LIVE ON! WE'RE GOING TO SURVIVE! TODAY WE CELEBRATE OUR INDEPENDENCE DAY!

I agree with everything you

I agree with everything you said, though you were kind of being a dick about it. Nevertheless the sentiment stands.

Is LOST a great show? To

Is LOST a great show? To answer that I propose, two general standards must be met. 1. It must have consistently entertained By all accounts it did. 2. Is the show as a text thoughtful and creative in the manner in which it dealt with the issues raised in the show? You believe many things in the show were stupid, indicating it failed this standard and is not a great show. You pose two essential challenges to the second standard. What the writers wrote into the show and what they didn't. Certain things in the show were deemed by you to have not mattered and certain things in the show that didn't have a satisfactory explanation were stupid. First, Adam, you have this really really stupid concept in your head of "matter". It's not a movie, it's a 120 hour TV show. I think it's fair to say there will be story-lines, themes, and characters that don't always directly impact the central story of Jack's journey or the Island, but why would that mean they don't matter? If you grow, learn, or are entertained by a story, it mattered. You write "The entirety of Season 4. An excuse to throw some new characters into the mix, none of whom mattered." Sure did Miles play an ultimate role in the island and Jack's journey? No, not even close, but to say he didn't matter, what an awful leap in thought. From Miles, we got a touching field of dreams esque story of a son reconciling with his father. Also, Miles' story is a very important one if someone where to reexamine the show specifically focusing on the theme of parental strife as we the viewer are shown that we must reexamine our conceptions of not just Miles' father but all seemingly bad parents as they too might have been doing what was necessary under dire circumstance. We also got 3 seasons of great quips, that I love even on reviewing. I would certainly say that Miles story and humor mattered. But boy it must have taken 10 seconds to write that Season 4 didn't matter, much easier than spending time thinking about the significance characters and story-lines from that season. Certainly, there were lots more that could be written about the hours of season 4 and other points in the show that you deem didn't matter, but I'd be reluctant to spend that sort of time thinking before writing on that issue as it doesn't appear you did before dismissing them. (And on a side note, I don't know where you learned how to critique a work let alone a television show. But "matter" is not a valid form of criticism in and of itself. Your decision that an element of a text didn't have meaning or purpose to the story does not carry weight without giving evidence that an element of the text undermined the authors message or discussion of an issue. And so you know, the fact that it may have been ancillary to the narrative, it does not follow that it weakened the message of the work just as how Miles was tangent to the ideas of faith and empiricism and free will and destiny but yet still critical to the parental issue) (2nd sidenote: Now you also feel that several mysteries and answers were stupid. As a previous commentator noted, you really showed your age with this sort of remark (which is disappointing as a contemporary), calling an element of a narrative "stupid" is garbage which any professor would reject. Stupid is a subjective opinion in the manner which you used it and critiquing things with that word is a way of bullying others to your point of view. I'm sure some people in this world would say you are stupid because you review movies and tv shows for a living, but mature people would not because it's inappropriate to demean someone like that. When you refer to things as stupid, you undermine yourself tremendously as a serious thinker in the field of television criticism. People will stop seeing your points for their evidence and method of argumentation and view you as a well read troll. I'm sure your inbox in the coming days will not doubt attest to that.) As far as the mysteries and elements on the show that did not meet your satisfaction, you hold them to some very strange standards. You claim victory that ABC promoted season 6 as containing all the answers and fans attested the same. How strange! To claim a work has greater or lesser value because of what ABC's marketing department did! The work is the only authority on the matter of to what manner mysteries were further explored. An example of a mystery you were dissatisfied with (aka stupid) are that Jacob and MIB can't harm one another and the source of this. The major problem with this mystery is the poor logic that governs this that we are forced to accept. But I would argue that you and others need to look at this not as if it were only a comic book technique (rules delineated to necessitate continuity) but rather more evidence on the nature of rules. Consider I told you the rule, you cannot kill your mother On one level, you would agree, you cannot kill your mother as you are not capable of such horror, you are bound by that rule. One another level of thought, you would disagree, of course you can kill your mother, it's no more difficult than killing a stranger, you are not bound by that rule. Consider another rule You cannot jump without aid more than a few feet into the air. You would agree on both levels you are bound by that rule. These two rules "you cannot jump without aid..." and "you cannot kill your..." are categorically two different things, but we call them both rules. A curiosity of our conception of the world, to be sure. Can rules be broken? Were MIB and Jacob truly not able to harm one another or were they conned by their mysterious Mother? Surely there can be more to say on this one mystery but I hope the idea is clear that not everything said or shown on Lost may be taken at face value. Of course on a literal level, this mystery appears trivial, but a deeper reading of the nature of this mystery reveals much fodder for a discussion. I would argue similar mysteries on Lost can be engaged in a similar manner. Consider the question of MIB leaving the island, is it true he can't leave or apocalypse will follow or have the losties been manipulated by Jacob as he was manipulated into believing this lie by a desperate mother. If you find a mystery engaging you can view it at face value or you can look for how it may have started like so many conspiracies that have simple explanations. I hope that I've encouraged many of you that enjoyed the show that characters like Mile still have value even if he had nothing to do with the afterlife and that mysteries on the show still have resonance even if the producers choose to leave them in an interpretative state. Thanks

The whole show being based

The whole show being based on the omniscient Jacob and telepathic Smokey scheming out their masterplans involving all the characters based on some little lie their mommy told them, would still be awfully stupid, and no pseudo-philosophical ramblings about the difference between laws of physics and laws of a state is gonna change the obvious incoherence and slop in the script of this show. Sure, the discussions between Hurley and Miles were wfully hilarious, and maybe some sort of a hint towards the notion that maybe, just maybe, this really wasn't supposed to be taken all too seriously. Sure, they make the characters with (apparent) knowledge speak in riddles which might lead nowhere, but at least they make ironic references to Yoda (I'd preferred the Oracle, though). Point for them.

You nailed it.

I can only imagine what it will be like when some of my friends start watching LOST. They will, no doubt, mention when they get to: *The part where Locke discovers the hatch. *The part about the Others. *The part about The Others wanting Walt because he's "special". *The part about the Freighter people. *The part about time travel. *The alternate timeline. When they mention these huge plot points I won't be thinking "wow. Those were some great character defining mysteries." I'll only see the amount of time they are about to waste on pointless theories and dead end tales.

nice job adam

after spending so much time watching and theorizing over this damn show, i have been in a strong state of denial. now that i've seen all these "mysteries" were nothing but bait to watch a meandering show about nothing, i'm ready to get angry. my mom was right all along, it's just a damned soap opera. thanks for the write-up adam, well done.

So was it a waste of time?

So was it a waste of time? Really? Didn't you enjoy talking about the show with others? Wasn't it thrilling the first time we were shown the inside of the hatch? I'm not excusing what the show ultimately became, but to dismiss the entire thing so quickly is a little frivolous. Unless you were being sarcastic, in which case, carry on.

THIS IS MY OPINION. IT IS

THIS IS MY OPINION. IT IS THE ONLY CORRECT OPINION. IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH ME YOU ARE JUST IN DENIAL.

Just like the people who

Just like the people who said, "YOU JUST DON'T GET IT! IT WAS ALWAYS ABOUT THE CHARACTERS!!"?

Spot on

Exactly my feelings; Lost is a desperate tangle of storylines, plot arcs and good intentions; some of which peter our through neccessity (actors leaving, DUIs etc.) and others through sheer bad planning and confusion. The points made by apologists who maintain the series was about characters not plot are sorely misguided. The dullest characters in the world will be redeemed by a compelling story arc, as long as they are both kept in context of each other. Lost offered both, but ended up sacrificing them on the twin altars of confusion and circumstance.

LOST

So, you enjoyed a show for six years and then at the end of the last season decide it sucked?? You have a right to not like the end but don't denigrate your own pleasure in what you did enjoy!! Let it go!!

No his point was that the

No his point was that the show started off great and then it slowly declined because it needed to constantly draw it's audience back if they wanted to know what the answers were. The only problem is that by the time Season 6 comes, the show has more questions than they can possibly answer with the remaining time left. So in the end, what happened was that subplots were just written off and never resolved or given the screen time that they deserved since they were so central to the earlier episodes.

I agree with pieces of what

I agree with pieces of what you said, but it just doesn't add up for me to the awful experience you describe. I too hated "Across the Sea". I had the same reactions to Hurley's explanation about the voices (something I really didn't need explained anyway) and the donkey wheel (awful dialogue). That said, a couple of points:

1. The seasons all served a purpose. It may not have been what you wanted, but each season peeled back a layer of what the island was and the journey the characters were on. Season 6 was not Jack's move from science to faith. That began in the flashforward at the end of Season 3. Season 4 with the focus off-island cemented this (for me) as a character-first show.

2. It's a TV show. It's necessarily episodic and I thought the seasons were all very self-contained with a cliffhanger that drove you into the next season. You compare it Veronica Mars (season 1 is my favorite single season of a tv show ever), but VM was at its core a very straightforward whodunnit. And even it sowed seeds that did emerge until two seasons later. To ask why ever TV show can't be like the best TV season ever is unfair. Most movies give you resolution in 2 hours or so. Hell, most TV shows provide resolution in 30 minutes chunks. Lost was different and was never pretended to be VM or Buffy. The closest comparisons for me are The Prisoner (simpler story with very satisfying ending) and BSG (kind of the same approach Lost ultimately took). Biggest difference for me between Lost and BSG is I liked Lost's ending.

3. Mysteries that build character. I had theories about the inter-connections of the characters and why Jacob would have brought each to the island. Turns out they were lonely people and Jacob was looking to provide community and meaning to their lives. At the end of the day, most dramas throw something at their characters to make them change, evolve or fail. Instead of hospital shootings or ex-girlfriends showing up, Lost threw hydrogen bombs and time travel at its characters.

Look, there was this point in about Season 4 that I stopped theorizing. Not completely cold turkey, but I started trying to figure out where the story was going and not worrying about the Hurley bird or the horse.

You are right about Darlton's BS ability which is why I stopped listening to them. Aspects of this season were blatantly manipulative. Why was the island underwater at the beginning of this season? Because we would wonder how it got there and be less likely to think afterlife. Lapidus was kept around to make us think the plane would take off, "killed" to take the plane out of play, then found floating in the ocean to give them an escape. They never really found a purpose for Kate after Season 1. Having her kill Man in Black gave her one, but wasn't as satisfying as Ben or Jack actually killing him.

But all of its flaws were all there all along. I suspect your problems with the show started long before the finale. "The End" simply confirmed all your worst fears. As for me, I grew to care deeply for all of these characters. I love the send-off they got here. And I love to have in my imagination the adventures Kate, Sawyer, Hurley, Ben, Miles, Claire, etc. had thanks to Jack's sacrifice. (I'm really trying to figure out how Kate explains her re-return from the island again).

Finally, the best part of Lost: healthy debate and no end of it.

Agreed

You really nailed this. What an excellent write up (and so well executed). Thank you, you are to me the little boy who pointed at the naked emperor. I finally accept I was completely conned.

Satisfying!

There is nothing so immensely satisfying as witnessing a bad movie/show being meticulously taken apart, and then utterly eviscerated piece by quivering piece. Keep up the awesome work Adam!

Wow

And I thought Devin's article on CHUD as comprehensive. Great work Adam, very very very well thought out and hard to argue with. Not that I would, anyway. Oh LOST, how you wronged me. I was such a big fan during and after season one. It was the first time I'd ever gone on the IMDb, and I went on the LOST message board daily for the entire break in between season one and two. I loved it and I loved discussing it. I now know that none of my discussions meant anything, none of my theories had a chance of being right. I will be avoiding anything Cuse and Lindelof do in the future.

I concur. "Acceptance."

I concur. "Acceptance." Sigh...

This is the best write up so

This is the best write up so far detailing the weakness of the series' finale and the inferiority of Season 6 to all of the other seasons. I was already aware that several things would not be answered about Lost but what I had not anticipated was that the answers that would be provided by Darlton would be nothing more than one liners, another checklist item to be crossed out. These mysteries and subplots were central elements of the earlier episodes and were left unanswered with Darlton saying that at the end, the audience would finally get their answers. Instead, we found out that those earlier mysteries and subplots never really mattered in the greater scheme of the show.

Disagree

Honestly, I'm a bit too lazy to go through the trouble of pointing out all of the reasons I disagree with this article, so I'll just boil it down to the fairly common response I'm sure you've heard over the past week: this show was a personal experience for everyone, and it worked for some and not for others. I'm sorry you are in the latter category, because I loved the hell out of the show. Sure, you bring up a lot of good points - but like someone else mentioned above, I stopped trying to "figure it out" sometime in Season Four and just learned to love the show for what it was: a glorified soap opera. That said, I appreciate what you're trying to do with this article and, for what it's worth, I think it was well-written.

I have to say I agree with

I have to say I agree with this comment. I think this article is very well written and I agree with quite a lot of what was said. But I also loved the show and will never regret to time I put into it.

Thank You

You've summed up my entire thought process in absolutely hating the show I loved a few weeks ago. You've just gained a fan. Can't wait to check out more of your work.

OK Then

No idea why it isn't showing the paragraphs, sorry about that. I mean, it does seem a little bit arrogant to simply call anyone who liked the show as going through denial over what it really was like. I hear what you're saying, but if anything, I've seen more people who have grown to like the finale than those who have gone against it. I'm reminded of your review of Shutter Island, which you seemed to love (if I remember correctly). You say that a mystery is only as good as its reveal, but to me, that movie was fantastic in everything except for the reveal, which you even called from the trailer. The execution of the reveal was also pretty poor, as I believe you said. Anyway, there are quite a lot of points that I disagree with in here. Just to pick a few random ones and to try and explain how I feel about them: The Hurley Bird: The Hurley Bird must have been a joke. I think that from the first appearance of the bird, fans started making theories about it saying "Hurley". I remember reading those threads and thinking "How ridiculous. Of course it isn't." I wouldn't be surprised if the writers did exactly the same and brought the bird back into the Season 2 finale as a joke to the fans (I feel that this is backed up by Sawyer's sarcastic comment about it crapping gold). Why is the monster stuck like Locke? Throughout the series, the Monster seems to have only been able to take the form of people who weren't fully buried on the island. When Locke's real body was buried, I believe that Ilana made a comment explaining that now he was stuck in that body. Eloise: This was handled pretty damn well, in my opinion. She knew everything because of the Losties who time travelled. When she got to the point where they went back in time, she no longer knew anything about what happened, which she pretty much said in the episode where Faraday died. She found out about the Afterlife place in a similar way that the Losties did, but didn't want to move on, because she wanted to spend more time with her son in the life that she could never give him in the real world. Fate/Destiny Science/Faith It's interesting how the entire show has been a metaphor for Faith, in that the writers have constantly been saying "Trust us, we know what we're doing", but there is never any proof of anything. Is that intentional? Probably not, but I think the theme of Faith was pretty integral to the show, and did ultimately pay off. Throughout the series, we are shown people who seem to know everything about the Island (Desmond, then Ben, then Richard, then Jacob and the Man in Black), only to realise that they were all answering to a higher power, and really had no idea the entire time. Everyone is acting out of sheer blind faith. Thye have no idea which side to root for, because they have no idea what each side represents, all they can do is to go for the side that they believe in the most. Why does the Source turn you into the Monster? OK, you win this. This was just... I would have preferred absolutely no explanation at all over that. Seriously. In fact, I thought that most of Across the Sea was pretty pointless. I was pretty damn happy with the mythology that was set up in Richard's episode that I didn't feel we needed an episode like this at all. I was happy thinking that Jacob and The Man in Black had been on the Island for all of time and were Gods or something. I was happy because that mythology was hinted at in a very well written episode, but now... Across the Sea... Yeah. Actually, I would have loved a Jacob/Man in Black episode, but from their POV during the first 5 Seasons. If they pulled an episode like that off that explained the actions of the Smoke Monster throughout the whole show, and even explained who the hell was in the cabin, then it would make it feel like the writers planned the show out a lot more than the reveal of Adam and Eve. Anyway, I have a theory about some of Lost's flaws. When they set an end date, ABC wanted the creators to make 3 more seasons of 24 episodes, Seasons 4, 5 and 6. However, the creators wanted only 2 seasons of 24, so they settled with 3 seasons of 16 instead. Now, it seems to me that the fewer episodes each season really hurt the show, losing a lot of focus on the characters and instead focusing on the mystery. Also, since the writers wanted 3 Seasons of story, each season with a different gimmick (forgive the use of the word), that they kind of lost direction. I will say that Lost is a pretty inspiring show for a lot of writers. It had such promise, and annoying flaws, that I am sure there are a lot of writers out there who want to have their own go at this kind of show, but make it better. Unfortunately, whatever they do, even if it is better, it will just be called a rip-off, but whatever. Sorry for the poorly written ramble, I just woke up.

Post new comment

The content of this field is kept private and will not be shown publicly.
  • Web page addresses and e-mail addresses turn into links automatically.
  • You can insert image and video nodes using [nodeinsert nid=55 align=left]

More information about formatting options

Follow Adam Quigley on...

Twitter Updates

    Hear Adam Quigley Live MONDAY NIGHTS at 6 PM PST / 9 PM EST

    And check out back-episodes of the /Filmcast here!